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	<title>Comments on: Read Embedded Flash Chips</title>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the other  Ic&#039;s do not have power applied , you are basically taking their pins  higher that the supply voltage.... this can cause   destructive latch-up of the onboard transistors inside the ic&#039;s  you may or may not get away with it.

There is no mention of  anti-static procedures in this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the other  Ic&#8217;s do not have power applied , you are basically taking their pins  higher that the supply voltage&#8230;. this can cause   destructive latch-up of the onboard transistors inside the ic&#8217;s  you may or may not get away with it.</p>
<p>There is no mention of  anti-static procedures in this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would never come up with such idea. Great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would never come up with such idea. Great!</p>
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		<title>By: datadiscount</title>
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		<dc:creator>datadiscount</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good work, what&#039;s about data you get ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good work, what&#8217;s about data you get ?</p>
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		<title>By: pepe</title>
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		<dc:creator>pepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good piece of hardware.

without trying to build it I had some worries.
When U read out the image does it contain the spare area of the memory? I am afraid no.
Without this info it is impossible to reorder blocks to build up the correct image most of the cases...
I would welcome comments on this matter...

thx,
pepe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good piece of hardware.</p>
<p>without trying to build it I had some worries.<br />
When U read out the image does it contain the spare area of the memory? I am afraid no.<br />
Without this info it is impossible to reorder blocks to build up the correct image most of the cases&#8230;<br />
I would welcome comments on this matter&#8230;</p>
<p>thx,<br />
pepe</p>
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		<title>By: Arjun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for ur idea man
Probably it will be useful to fix my mp3 player
I was not able to mend my player for past 2 years.
This will help me..Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for ur idea man<br />
Probably it will be useful to fix my mp3 player<br />
I was not able to mend my player for past 2 years.<br />
This will help me..Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Pio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These articles, and Brandonu&#039;s notes helped me recover video from a friends CVS camcorder that I accidentally damaged.  The unit was &#039;bricked&#039;, it would only power on for a half second before shutting off.
I tried many different ways to mount the NAND image as a drive: OnBelay, dd, chip clips, etc. to no avail.  I finally had to physically remove the chip and breadboard it onto a Schmartboard.  From there I coupled it to an old Ethernut controller board (Atmega 128) and did a brute force I/O dump.
This was in fact the hardest part, writing the software dumping program for the ethernut to overcome some very noisy wiring that I had arranged.   This finally produced a text-based data dumping program which ran over telnet.  The data took 3 days to dump 128MB, plus 1 hour to convert from text to binary with a ruby script.  But, the results were perfect.
I don&#039;t recommend this method to anyone, but it sort of evolved on its own for me out of necessity and cost.  If you are in a similar situation and need some encouragement you can email me madarp {at} rocketmail [dot] com.
Thanks guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These articles, and Brandonu&#8217;s notes helped me recover video from a friends CVS camcorder that I accidentally damaged.  The unit was &#8216;bricked&#8217;, it would only power on for a half second before shutting off.<br />
I tried many different ways to mount the NAND image as a drive: OnBelay, dd, chip clips, etc. to no avail.  I finally had to physically remove the chip and breadboard it onto a Schmartboard.  From there I coupled it to an old Ethernut controller board (Atmega 128) and did a brute force I/O dump.<br />
This was in fact the hardest part, writing the software dumping program for the ethernut to overcome some very noisy wiring that I had arranged.   This finally produced a text-based data dumping program which ran over telnet.  The data took 3 days to dump 128MB, plus 1 hour to convert from text to binary with a ruby script.  But, the results were perfect.<br />
I don&#8217;t recommend this method to anyone, but it sort of evolved on its own for me out of necessity and cost.  If you are in a similar situation and need some encouragement you can email me madarp {at} rocketmail [dot] com.<br />
Thanks guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Autopig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Autopig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COOL!
i will learn more from you! Genius!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COOL!<br />
i will learn more from you! Genius!</p>
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		<title>By: brandonu</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandonu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 19:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the LCD Module!</description>
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		<title>By: brandonu</title>
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		<dc:creator>brandonu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Brad Martin-
 Thanks for the comment.  I had priced out TSOP test clips and found out they were way over my budget.  Hence the hack.  Lower melt solder would certainly help being a bit easier to work with and a little bit gentler on the chip.
One of the guys over at CameraHacking.com had come up with a reusable, non-solder clip out of a SchmartBoard.  You can see fliers work at
http://camerahacks.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=27277#27277
It can make this even easier :)

@ antics
This was originally used by me as the first &quot;legal&quot; hack of the then new M220 model of &quot;one-time-use&quot; camcorders.

@ gregr
I&#039;ll have to check that out!  Thanks

Any questions, etc. can be sent to camcorderhack {at} gmail [dot] com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Brad Martin-<br />
 Thanks for the comment.  I had priced out TSOP test clips and found out they were way over my budget.  Hence the hack.  Lower melt solder would certainly help being a bit easier to work with and a little bit gentler on the chip.<br />
One of the guys over at CameraHacking.com had come up with a reusable, non-solder clip out of a SchmartBoard.  You can see fliers work at<br />
<a href="http://camerahacks.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=27277#27277" rel="nofollow">http://camerahacks.10.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?p=27277#27277</a><br />
It can make this even easier <img src='http://www.uchobby.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@ antics<br />
This was originally used by me as the first &#8220;legal&#8221; hack of the then new M220 model of &#8220;one-time-use&#8221; camcorders.</p>
<p>@ gregr<br />
I&#8217;ll have to check that out!  Thanks</p>
<p>Any questions, etc. can be sent to camcorderhack {at} gmail [dot] com</p>
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		<title>By: gregr</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 18:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is actually a dd for windows that does a fine job at dumping raw data. http://www.chrysocome.net/dd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is actually a dd for windows that does a fine job at dumping raw data. <a href="http://www.chrysocome.net/dd" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrysocome.net/dd</a></p>
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